7 May 2007

Did Osho have motives for all his actions? (Plasticeso )


For more than 20 years I actively participated in the Sannyas movement.
Now my question, which occupies me: Did Osho have motives for all his
actions or not? If he had motives, than he could not have been
enlightened. For the state of being enlightened means living without
personal motives and at the same time in resonance with the Tao, which
moves from moment to moment. Acting without motives also means that
there is no doer. So if he was enlightened and acted without motives,
why all those endless discussions who Osho was, what Osho was and
whether his decisions were right or wrong? In consequence, are all our
answers not only our own projections, based on our social and spiritual
conditioning and inner world of experience? If Osho was the Enlightened
One, for whom we all took him, why do we project so many private
opinions on him? To be enlightened means to be the source itself. The
source itself, which formed us human beings in all our shadings. So why
should the source have to give account to it's own creation? We
like to wish that the teacher on the outside should adjust to our own
ideas, concepts and feelings how a teacher should be and talk. If he
doesn't do that we immediately start with our projections, opinion
wars and discussions. From my experience an enlightened teacher does
everything, whether he speaks, sleeps, eats, loves, is controversial
... as played FAKE-situations which he designed to wake his disciples
up from their sleep of unconsciousness. We are all in our unconscious.
The teacher can't be. If the teacher carries unconscious spots
inside anyway, we trustfully turned to the wrong person for 20 or 30
years. Now, what is true? Does the teacher have any motives for his
actions or not? I am dying to know what all of you think about that,
what's your opinion ??

Lovely Moments

-Plasticeso- :)

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Re: [OshoByronBay] Did Osho have motives for all his actions?

Hi,
Why do we let this man, who has no love for Osho, use OUR SITE?
More filtering please.
Love Rasa

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Re: [OshoByronBay] Did Osho have motives for all his actions?

Why this ? (rhetorical)
"we should ... " Please!

Pontificating is very ugly!

There is way to have all your opinions, feelings and objections by
FULLY owning them. You may have heard this over the last 20 years
somewhere in Sannyas - Try speaking for yourself only in the first
person ... "I". Then your mail might be more palatable.

Jyoti

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Re: [OshoByronBay] Did Osho have motives for all his actions?

Hi Plasticeso,

I feel you are projecting onto Osho from your own mind space.... stop
judging Osho for a moment and look at yourself... try and get an
understanding of your ego which is generating all of these opinions.... if
it is time for you to drop Osho then do it completely and focus on what you
want...

Kind regards
Abby

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Re: [OshoByronBay] Did Osho have motives for all his actions?

"plasticeso" hides behind a pseudonym and engages/produces/displays his/her
chattering mind. Please not more of this stuff!
Netra

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Re: [OshoByronBay] Did Osho have motives for all his actions?

Of course the old bustard was not enlightened. He was good at stirring however.

And if he helped or stimulated anyone on the path that is cool with me.

Those who must cling desperately to gurus and ideas and hope - well let them cling. If they shriek for censorship they clearly have no idea about Osho at all.

To hear "more filtering" and "love" in the same sentence is funny.

Hot chilli pepper to you all.

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Re: [OshoByronBay] Did Osho have motives for all his actions?

Good on you for trying. There is however only one question for me.

Am I enlightened?

As Paul is so happy to say - it is all about me.

And as you say the energy of the Tao is in Teertha/Paul Lowe, the energy of the Tao is in Somendra/Michael Barnett and some others. And as I say the energy of the Tao is in dogshit.

Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.... (Albert Einstein)

Keep going.

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